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  APOSTATES AT THE ASSEMBLY...

  by cyber-sista in

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  Winston Smith :>D

  I LOVE the idea of a billboard!

  Something with disarming, clever and succint would do the trick
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  newbie

  by suga-free sweety in

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  Winston Smith :>D

  Since I've decided to turn my life around

  There are better ways to turn your life around besides joining a high-control group.

  Join the YWCA, take up dance classes or something else that interests you.

  Take up a new language at the community college or maybe learn to play an instrument and then play out with a band.

  Maybe a non-denominational church would be a good way to get started with religion.

  Look at other belief systems other than the typical Western accepted religions.

  All of the above would expand your circle of friends.

  But anything besides a high-control religous group!

  If you are looking for a fresh start with good friends, then IMO you're sniffing in the wrong place with JW's.

  Best wishes,

  Paul
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  What does your user name here mean?

  by LyinEyes in

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  i don't know what eles to call it , i guess it is the user name....lol.......so what does yours mean?.

  i think awhile back i might have asked this,,,,,,,but it was way back and so many new ones here that i am just getting to know, and ones who came in here while i was not here as much.

  there may be a thread on this in the last recent months, i am not sure,,,,if so, if there are any new ones who want to tell why they choose their user names,,,,,please do.. i will tell you why my name is lyineyes,,,,,many have asked me that here lately.

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  I saw the movie in 1984 with John Hurt. I remember one morning at "morning worship" while we were eating that out of the TV monitors numbers were being fed to us of expansion in other countries and the number of magazines placed and it all occured to me the propaganda machine at Brooklyn and its sole job of continually fooling the publishers that we were at war with Oceania!

  got my forty homey?

  That is a disturbing comparison!

  So thought the movie was good?
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  What does your user name here mean?

  by LyinEyes in

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  i don't know what eles to call it , i guess it is the user name....lol.......so what does yours mean?.

  i think awhile back i might have asked this,,,,,,,but it was way back and so many new ones here that i am just getting to know, and ones who came in here while i was not here as much.

  there may be a thread on this in the last recent months, i am not sure,,,,if so, if there are any new ones who want to tell why they choose their user names,,,,,please do.. i will tell you why my name is lyineyes,,,,,many have asked me that here lately.

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  Winston Smith :>D

  I find it's contents widely applicable, not just to JWs.

  Loves_Truth

  Very true!

  and I revisited the story through watching the movie

  tal

  How is the movie? I want to rent it sometime. Is it as good as the book?
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  Welcome to Morgan!

  by Valis in

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  welcome to the forum morgan...arrrrr..... sincerely,.

  district overbeer

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  Winston Smith :>D

  Welcome Morgan!
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  jw-media.org robots

  by izobcenec in

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  the standard for robot exclusion (sre) is a means by which web site owners can instruct automated systems not to crawl their sites.

  web site owners can specify files or directories that are allowed or disallowed from a crawl, and they can even create specific rules for different automated crawlers.

  all of this information is contained in a file called robots.txt.

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  So what are the implications of these instructions to something like Goggle?

  what is the affect?
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  What does your user name here mean?

  by LyinEyes in

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  i don't know what eles to call it , i guess it is the user name....lol.......so what does yours mean?.

  i think awhile back i might have asked this,,,,,,,but it was way back and so many new ones here that i am just getting to know, and ones who came in here while i was not here as much.

  there may be a thread on this in the last recent months, i am not sure,,,,if so, if there are any new ones who want to tell why they choose their user names,,,,,please do.. i will tell you why my name is lyineyes,,,,,many have asked me that here lately.

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  Winston Smith :>D

  'cont...

  I picked Winston Smith because his path and awakening seemed very similar to mine. I only wanted to avoid his eventual demise; which was to be brainwashed and released back into society as a working drone for Big Brother.

  Winston Smith lives in a high-control society run by Big Brother, ala the Governing Body. Any dissenting citizens are tortured and/or killed, like JC?s and DF/DA?ing [minus the physical death, but spiritual and emotional death surely]. The workplace he is at is called the ?Ministry of Truth?. The name is completely contrary to what the purpose of the ?Ministry of Truth? is, which is to falsify all past records of the ruling party ?Insog?, similar to how the WTS whitewashes their own past history and then calling it ?New Light??.

  The language of the ruling party Insog is called ?Newspeak?, a loaded language that is designed to remove all words that describe any unwanted ideas. It also reduces the number of words in the vocabulary to limit the range of ideas that a citizen can be expressed.

  The WTS is has a similar MO. For instance, an undesirable word like ?shunned? is transformed into the harmless sounding word ?disfellowship?, or lack or fellowship. But it is really shunning. ?Disassociate? means shunned as well, only the person who is DA?d is the one who shunned the WTS first, which is even more heinous. A ?privilege? is really additional work. JW?s don?t have ?parties? (too much fun), they have ?get-togethers?. JW?s are not ?following men?, but rather, the ?Governing Body? whom are worshipped like God, just like Big Brother is. There are tons of loaded words in the WTS that mean nothing elsewhere except within the JW cult: Kingdom Hall, Field Service, the Family Study, Regular / Auxiliary Pioneer.

  In 1984, the government uses Doublethink to control people by their own thoughts. Doublethink is defined as, ?to hold two completely contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accept both of them.? As a JW, we all did this on many different levels. A good example of Doublethink by JW?s is when someone at the door asks if JW?s believe if just JW?s will survive Armageddon, and we say no one knows but Jehovah, and we believed that as we said it. But the reality is that as we sat in the Kingdom Hall we would judge who would survive Armageddon and who would not based on how many hours they get in and how frequently they would comment. The honest answer is that a person outside the WTS doesn?t have a prayer to survive Armageddon, but a JW can use Doublethink believe both contradictory possibilities!

  In 1984, the citizens can be guilty of ?Thoughtcrime?, which is to just consider any thought that is not in line with the principles of Ingsoc. As a JW, any doubts about the Governing Body?s teachings are labeled as apostasy!

  Insog is continually at war, not to win, but to keep the citizens busy and have a common enemy. Similarly, the preaching work does not do as much good for converting and it does to keep the R&F busy and give JW?s a visible sign that they are doing something against Satan and his world, the common enemy.

  Winston Smith is lost in the world of Big Brother, and needs to define himself. He does so privately at first because to do it publicly would be suicide, just like it would be for any JW. But as his self-discovery moves from private to a more public arena, he eventually gets turned in to the Thought Police by someone he trusted, just as I got caught by the elders because I was turned in by someone whom I trusted.

  Winston achieves intellectual freedom just as I achieved freedom from the fear of the Governing Body and their rules, but Winston knew that his physical capture is inevitable just as I knew I would eventually be caught and dealt with by the elders.

  Eventually Winston meets an undesirable end. I won?t give it away in case any here haven?t read it yet.

  I wanted to avoid those final chapters of Winston?s life, so I went to five elder meetings lasting 1.5 ? 2 hours a pop. But then I cut the last meeting short at the ten-minute mark when I handed my eight page letter of DA personally to the elders.

  I walked out with freedom as they failed to brainwash me and lever what I feared the most against me.

  That was December 5, 2003, and then announced December 11, 2003! I mailed out 20+ copies of my eight page DA letter to people in the surrounding congregations before the DA announcement was made. The elders didn?t care for me not playing by their rules.

  ...Well, if you read this far, then my hat is off to you
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  What does your user name here mean?

  by LyinEyes in

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  i don't know what eles to call it , i guess it is the user name....lol.......so what does yours mean?.

  i think awhile back i might have asked this,,,,,,,but it was way back and so many new ones here that i am just getting to know, and ones who came in here while i was not here as much.

  there may be a thread on this in the last recent months, i am not sure,,,,if so, if there are any new ones who want to tell why they choose their user names,,,,,please do.. i will tell you why my name is lyineyes,,,,,many have asked me that here lately.

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  Winston Smith :>D

  Winston Smith is the protagonist from George Orwell's masterpiece, 1984. A MUST READ for any JW or exiting JW!

  The similarities between the world Winston Smith lives in and the WatchTower world is eerily similar. I read it about half a year before my Awake!?ening to the truth about the Troof in the summer of 2003. I was still an active JW when I started posting here, but I knew before coming to the Internet that I would be DF?f or I would DA myself. I couldn?t stay in the control of the WTS.

  I picked Winston Smith because his path and awakening seemed very similar to mine. I only wanted to avoid his eventual demise; which was to be brainwashed and released back into society as a working drone for Big Brother.

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  You can read more about this in the next post. Otherwise, you can skip it if it's too long for you
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  Choices in life......................

  by Sunnygal41 in

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  will i use this situation as a catalyst to grow and evolve or will i use it to beat myself up?

  everything in this life can be used to transform us, to bring us closer to our spiritual essence and our dreams.

  we are either using life in our favor or we are using it against ourselves.

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  Winston Smith :>D

  Great points Terri!

  Other related quotes that I like:

  "Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds."

  "Keep away from people who try to belittle your ambitions. Small people always do that, but the really great make you feel that you, too, can become great."

  "To lead the orchestra, you must turn your back on the crowd."

  "Other people may not have had high expectations for me... but I had high expectations for myself." -

  "Do not spoil what you have by desiring what you have not; but remember that what you now have was once among the things you only hoped for."
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  Would You Return To The Organization If You Were Given Total Amnesty?

  by minimus in

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  if you knew that the policy was that there would be no more witchhunts, no more disfellowshippings or shunning of any kind, would you be tempted to go back?

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  Winston Smith :>D

  Would You Return To The Organization If You Were Given Total Amnesty?

  Oh min. And Mav thinks that we have no sense of humor here